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Thursday, August 27, 2009

Stupid Until Proven Intelligent - MD & DC Relations

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Around 1986-7 I was the medical director for a track meet at West Point. At that time I was in charge of all medical care for all of the Metropolitan Athletics Congresses events. I must have worked at 40-50 track and cross country events a year.


Whoever was a top US 100m high hurdler fell and hurt her leg. The pain was on the lateral side of her lower leg. A tuning fork test suggested an unusual fracture one of the fibula. The tuning fork test is where one puts a 128Hz turning fork on a bone with a suspected fracture (not right over the site of injury) and the vibration is supposed to irritate the fracture side and cause pain.


I drove this woman to the base hospital and spoke to the admission clerk, reporting a suspected fibular fracture. The attending was standing nearby and overheard me. He said, “don’t you mean tibia?” I replied, “no, fibula.” He asked why I thought fibula. As I said this is not a common fracture.


I said location of pain and a positive tuning fork test. That of course provoked questions about the tuning fork. I said that it was a standard on-field screening test in sport medicine.


MD: “Sports medicine? That’s a specialty?”

Me: “I’m certified” {I was a CCSP (Certified Chiropractic Sports Physician - except due to NYS bizzar rules I was supposed to call myself a Certified Chiropractic Sports Practioner}

MD: “I didn’t know there were fellowships in that?”

Me: “I did post grad training”


He then asked if I could show him how to do it on a woman just brought in by ambulance. She crashed on the base ski run. He had to get a nurse to unlock the cabinet with the tuning forks. They had the box set with every frequency. I took out the 128Hz and showed him how to use it. Later after my athlete’s radiographs came back negative we talked some more. He asked what hospital I work at and then I said, “I don’t, I’m a chiropractor.”


Lindsay Rowe, DC, MD taught me this "technique" to deal with medical prejudice towards chiropractors. He said that to many MDs you are stupid until proven intelligent if they know you are a chiropractor. So prove you are intelligent and then let them know you are a chiropractor. I’ve used it often to great effect.


The example Lindsay gave me was that before he went back to get his medical degree, he used to travel the US. Wherever he was he'd call the local medical school and try to speak to the head of radiology department. On the phone he would introduced himself as a radiologist from NZ with interesting cases. Lindsey is a board certified chiropractic radiologist. {BTW two studies have shown that chiropractic radiologists (DACBR) are as good as anyone else in reading skeletal films.(1, 2)} If he got to meet with the radiologist they'd play what I call, "stump the radiologist."


Then when they were done trying to stump each other he’d reveal he was “only” a DC. Lots of surprised looks. He was invited to give grand rounds a few times and audience was only told what his training was at the end. Most couldn’t believe it because of course we’re all dumb as door-nails.


I've used this technique for many years. Fortunately, I don't run into such overt prejudice as often as I once did. My favorite example was the MD at a cocktail party who upon hearing I was a chiropractor dropped my hand, mid-handshake, spun on his heels and walked away without a single word.


Because of my work with the ING New York City Marathon and the New York Road Runners I often come in contact with MDs and haven't had that kind of thing happen. I guess that means my profession is moving more into the mainstream of health care, but we have work yet to do to be completely in mainstream health-care.


SMP


1. Taylor JA, Clopton P, Bosch E, Miller KA, Marcelis S. Interpretation of abnormal lumbosacral spine radiographs: A test comparing students, clinicians, radiology residents, and radiologists in medicine and chiropractic. Spine. 1995;20(10):1147-54.
2. de Zoete A, Assendelft WJ, Algra PR, Oberman WR, Vanderschueren GM, Bezemer PD. Reliability and validity of lumbosacral spine radiograph reading by chiropractors, chiropractic radiologists, and medical radiologists. Spine. 2002 Sep 1;27(17):1926-33; discussion 33.

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